Talk show: Why Markus Lanz doesn’t like the answers of his guests

Lanz wanted to know why Germany imports liquefied gas instead of producing shale gas in this country – but didn’t really understand.

Like Bavaria, Lower Saxony also wants to become climate-neutral by 2040. Just definitely not through fracking. “There is no topic that gets people so upset,” confirmed Prime Minister Stephan Weil (SPD) at “Markus Lanz” from his own experience. And then indirectly ruled out that the rich deposits of shale gas, which are stored under the soil of his state, are still being mined.

“It wouldn’t help us in the short term. And in the long term we want to get out of CO2,” explained Weil, who has just been re-elected in Lower Saxony. The liquid gas deliveries, “which worsen our climate balance sheet”, were only necessary in the current situation. In the long term, they should be used for climate-neutral hydrogen.

He was also in a chatty mood and confident that the “Emsland nuclear power plant will expire in mid-April”, as decided. But would the other two nuclear power plants then be shut down for good? He didn’t want to commit himself: “The energy supply in the south is more precarious.”

“Markus Lanz”: Those were the guests

  • Stephan Weil, SPD politician
  • Hans-Joachim Kümpel, geophysicist
  • Petra Pinzler, journalist
  • Ronny Blaschke, sports journalist

Markus Lanz had to be criticized this Thursday for his tendentious setting of topics. He was obviously still under the impression of Markus Söder, who had been his guest a week earlier. He wanted an “ideology-free natural gas production” in Germany – ostensibly to solve the current energy crisis, but possibly only to distract from his own meager energy transition balance sheet.

In any case, Markus Lanz was happy to take up the Söder narrative: Germany needs around 90 billion cubic meters of gas every year. About 20 billion cubic meters could come from their own country, especially from the Lower Saxony region of Emsland, which is something like the “Texas of Germany”. Only – allegedly – ​​nobody wanted to talk about it.

But wouldn’t it be better to produce the fracking gas yourself, which is “middle evil everywhere” instead of importing it as liquefied gas at great expense in terms of energy and costs? Somehow Markus Lanz didn’t like the answers to the repeatedly asked question until the end.

Markus Lanz on gas: “No technical basis for a fracking ban”?

With Hans-Joachim Kümpel, Markus Lanz also invited a geophysicist who had been head of the for ten years Federal Institute for Geosciences and Natural Resources (BGR) has examined the “potential of natural gas deposits” – and advocated fracking.

The professor explained in detail how easily, safely and quickly natural gas could be extracted from horizontal layers without the feared earthquakes occurring. Or to drinking water contamination through “methane slip”.

His conclusion: “There is no technical basis for a fracking ban, only a political one.” increased by Russian gas to over 50 percent.”

Journalist: Fracking uses a lot of water and land

What Markus Lanz didn’t say (or hadn’t known until then): Until it was dissolved in 2016, the BGR was financed by the Hans-Joachim-Martini-Foundation with generous grants and prizes from industry. For Petra Pinzler from the “Zeit” a clear case of lobbying. Both the agency and the foundation “were wound up in 2016,” she recalled.

“It’s not that simple,” the journalist vehemently contradicted Kümpel’s assertion that there were no technical objections: fracking uses a lot of water and land, both of which are becoming increasingly scarce. It also required large investments that she didn’t want to see invested in “yesterday’s technology.”

In any case, she was not convinced by his “permanent belittling of the risks”, and the economics and environmental editor “did not take any prisoners” (Lanz) in other respects either. You should take a look at who kept opening the fracking debate, she advised the moderator: “It is the FDP that is responsible for the fact that the government is currently not achieving the climate goals. And the CSU, which wants a different energy policy all the time anyway.”

“The World Cup has always been political”

As the fourth guest in the “Lanz” round, sports journalist Ronny Blaschke held back during the fracking debate. 20 minutes before the end, he then drew a direct line from the liquid gas deliveries from Qatar to the “1 Love” armband: “The World Cup has always been political,” he explained.

Then, together with Markus Lanz, he recalled the 1978 games in Argentina: Two years earlier, a military junta had taken power and arrested, tortured and made disappear more than 30,000 critics. The national players at the time didn’t care, which they unashamedly admitted in front of the camera.

He saw the fact that the Qataris were now reacting more and more allergic to the human rights demands as a warning: “It can damage us economically after the World Cup,” he feared for the 150 German companies that are currently active in Qatar.

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